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The Carpenter Travesty E-mail
Written by Larry Granillo   
Friday, 20 November 2009 00:00

Yesterday was a seminal day in baseball history. When it was announced that Chris Carpenter finished second in the National League Cy Young voting despite not being named on two ballots - yes, two whole ballots - the game of baseball was irreparably changed, and not for the better. It may be hard to recognize at first but, sometime soon, we'll be looking back on this Thursday in the same way that we now look back on Opening Day 1947 or the first time Derek Jeter's dreamy smile graced the covers of the New York tabloids. I mean, this is important stuff.

First, it must be said that Tim Lincecum absolutely deserved to win the Cy Young. That is not the travesty. With that hair, that goofy grin, and those creepy commercials, there's no way the kid didn't deserve it. He also had some pretty good stats. The travesty here is that Chris Carpenter, who started a whopping 28 games for the Cardinals, was considered to be only the fourth best pitcher in the National League by two voters. Two voters?! Fourth best?! Those two voters should never be allowed to watch another baseball game, assuming they even watched one to begin with. It's a joke.

What's worse is that these two "writers" are two of those new guys from the internets. Bill Carol writes for some place called "Baseball Protect Us" (which sounds like a cult to me), where they like to invent "statistics" in order to sound smart, and Keith Klaw is some Canadian scout who couldn't even cut it with the Expos. I still don't even understand how these guys have a vote.

But they do, and their irresponsible and ill-informed "votes" are going to have some long-term implications. I don't like it. Baseball is changed, and only the likes of Bowie Kuhn or old Charlie Comiskey could change it back. And with those two departed, we're plain S.O.L. Here's a partial list of the changes that are going to take place over the next few years as we enter this new era. Be warned - they're unpleasant:

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  • Past Cy Young Awards belonging to such all-time greats as Bob Welch, Mark Davis, and Jack McDowell will now be redistributed to their peers based on some convoluted, egghead formula that doesn't even look at wins or saves. Like that's some way to reward pitchers!
  • World Series games will be scheduled to begin before 8pm Eastern. I don't know - I guess some stat guys' computers told them that pitchers' FIPs or WHIPs or DIPS or some such nonsense are better in the earlier evening, so now they have to mess with our tv schedule. What about those of us who like those two hour long pre-game shows where the ex-jocks tell us what we want to hear? Some of us actually like that, you know, and I don't want to miss work just to get home to see them.
  • Ticket prices are going to plunge to dangerously low-levels. Which only makes sense - why would anyone want to pay to see pitchers in a world where Chris Carpenter is considered by two different people as the fourth best pitcher in baseball, instead of the second or third? Do you really want to go to a stadium for under $10?
  • This one is already happening, but it's going to get a lot worse real soon: ballclubs, managers, and the pitchers themselves will care more about their health and "being a long-term asset" than they will about going two more innings tonight. If Sandy Koufax, Mark Fidrych, Jose Rijo, or even Mark Prior taught us anything oh-those-many-years ago, it's that pitchers can go nine, ten, or even more innings in a game whenever their manager asks them. Heck, Carp pitched in 192 innings and threw three complete games all year. That's what we need more of.
  • Finally, and most frighteningly, it means that this whole new breed of fan is going to spring up everywhere. This is a breed of fan that, when they watch a game, they have to think about it and try to figure it out. They go home and, instead of watching Web Gems of their left-fielder dive outstretched for a ball to his left that he originally thought was going to be to his right, they argue with their "computer friends" about what position on the field is more "valuable" and who gets on-base more. I for one do not want to sit next to a bunch of fans who can't recognize how much better, say, Ryan Howard is than Chase Utley or Justin Morneau is over Joe Mauer.

I know not all of you believe that these terrible crimes against baseball are about to occur - and that some of you might actually agree with that Carol guy or that Klaw guy - but you just wait and see. There have been some travesties in baseball's past - collusion, drugs, segregation - but few, if any, had the scope that this vote will have. This is a sea change, people, and you really need to be aware of it.

I think I'll go watch my video of Pete Rose breaking Ty Cobb's record - that should wipe away some of this bad taste in my mouth.



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written by drchstrpunk, November 20, 2009
Brilliant!
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written by Jason@IIATMS, November 20, 2009
Neyer'd!

Nice job Lar. I got a good laugh outta this one!
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written by Bill@TDS, November 20, 2009
Very well done, sir. I'm pretty sure Jim Bowden and Rob Dibble would enthusiastically agree to every word of this.
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brilliant
written by Manuel Tortolero, November 20, 2009
I know two or three baseball writers who use to write in that way really thinking all those things are happening.
Great piece.
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written by Chadillac, November 20, 2009
Take that Jon Heyman!
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Lame
written by Ryan G., November 20, 2009
Timmy hates your article. Timmy says you are signing Washburn and the Brewers are losing 90 games next year!
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LHP
written by Rob Nelson, November 20, 2009
World Series games BEFORE 8pm EST? You don't mean waaay before, do you? As in a "Day" game? Oh man, you are so whacked!

Funny stuff.

Thank for bringing a smile to a fan's face - while gazing at Portland's soggy day.
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written by heyblue, November 20, 2009
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Ron R
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written by Ron R, November 21, 2009
Lar,

You're the Retrosheet wiz. Why not run the numbers for Carpenter and Lincecum, deleting the starts Linceum made while Carpenter was on the disabled list, and lets see what the results are?

Carepenter might have gone 0-5, giving up 47 runs in 17 innings, with 10 strikeouts, 23 walks, and 12 hr's.

Or he might have gone 5-0, giving up 6 runs in 35 innings, with 28 strikeouts, 12 walks, and 4 hr's. Aw well as picking up another shutour or two, and some complete games.

So run the numbers side by side. If Lincecum had a hot streak while Carpenter was hurt, and pitched great, shouldn't that be docked against him in comparison to Caprenter, since Carpenter didn't have that same opportunity? That's the argument that's being used about the innings pitched.

And if Lincecum had a cold streak and pitched really bad during that time, his numbers head to head would be that much better and end the debate.
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written by Ron R, November 21, 2009
I'm talking all the stats, sabermetric as well as traditional. If the argument is that Lincecum is better than Carpenter because Carpenter didn't pitch as many innings, then you can't fairly compare them by using the extra innings that Lincecum pitched.

And, again, for the record, I've never once said Carpenter should have, or deserved, to win. My point was he shouldn't have been left off of the ballot.
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written by Nick F., November 21, 2009
Ron, you cannot be serious. That is jawdroppingly stupid. Like, sub-100 IQ stupid.

Yes, let's just play hypotheticals. Hey, what if Sidney Ponson were on the Mariners and had a 1.50 ERA?! He should get the AL Cy Young. What if Tim Hudson weren't injured all year? Clearly that isn't fair to him!! He should get Cy Youn consideration too.

And what about Jose Reyes? How do we know he wouldn't have hit over .400? Totally not fair. Better run some Retrosheet data to fix this injustice.
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written by Chadillac, November 21, 2009
I thought this horse was already dead? Perhaps the more appropriate comparison would be Carpenter vs Vazquez and Haren since those are the two pitchers that Klaw and Will chose. One component of a player's worth is health and/or durability. A player can't win games and help his team if he's sitting on the bench.
You can't use hypothetical stats to bolster your argument that player x should have been on someone's ballot. Well, maybe if you're eight years old you can.
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2002 Blue Jays: Law, Ricciardi, Carpenter
written by Required, November 21, 2009
Keith Law worked for JP Ricciardi up in Toronto from 2002-2006 and he was instrumental in convincing JP to remove Carpenter from the Blue Jays 40-man roster.

So of course Law didn't vote for Carpenter, doing so could have possibly helped Carpenter win the Cy Young ... which would have made Keith's & JP's 2002 decision look even worse.

Do you really think Law would vote for the same guy that he convinced JP Ricciardi to dump?
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written by Nick F., November 21, 2009
You're a goddamn idiot. Carpenter tore his labrum, which in 2002 was a death sentence for a pitcher. They let him go because things looked hopeless.
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written by Kenneth W., November 23, 2009
this is the most retarded thing i have layed eyes upon since i saw jose conseco write a book. in no way, shape or form can this be mistakened for brillance or even logical thinking. The fact that you're bitching about two voters not putting Carpenter in is a joke, i know you're one track mind is thinking Javier Vasquez Who? and Danny Haren Who? because they weren't on a playoff team or named lincecum you deem them not even worth consideration.

you say that wins and saves will no longer be major deciding factors in voting, but 2008's AL Cy Young Vote went: 1) the major league leader in wins (Cliff Lee) and 2) the MLB leader in saves (K Rod). Sandy Koulfax didnt kill his career by throwing too many innings and CG's, he lost his career the same way so many other pitchers did in those times, blowing out his elbow before Tommy John surgery was discovered.

The most telling part of your down-syndrome is the Justin Morneau being a clearly better hitter then Joe Mauer. You're the type of dumb ass who ends up sitting behind me at a game, running your mouth clue less and only for shock value, thanks to rob neyer for pointing out to me how ridiculous this shit is.
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written by firedownunder, November 24, 2009
It's called sarcasm, numbnuts. Sar-cas-m.
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written by Making fun of Ken, November 25, 2009
Hey Ken, it's called satire!
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written by Curtis A, November 27, 2009
This retard really thinks Morneau is better then Mauer? Mauer is the better hitter and he plays catcher. People who watch soccer could tell you that. These are the baseball fans that should just die. This guy makes me sick. And yes Utley is better then Howard. He is one of the best defensive and offensive 2b in the game.

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